<div dir="ltr">I don't think they are serving ads. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-13 21:13 GMT+02:00 Peter Lowe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pgl@yoyo.org" target="_blank">pgl@yoyo.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OK, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and delist them.<br>
<br>
Incidentally, I received this in 2008:<br>
<br>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:17:12 -0700<br>
From: Patrick Salyer <<a href="mailto:patrick@gigya-inc.com">patrick@gigya-inc.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:pgl@yoyo.org">pgl@yoyo.org</a><br>
Subject: Gigya<br>
<br>
Hi Peter,<br>
<br>
My name is Patrick and I am with Gigya. I noticed that Gigya is being<br>
listed as an ad server. I think this was done by mistake. In fact,<br>
Gigya is a flash tool that is used by web publishers to enable them to<br>
easily share content. Because we are listed on an ad server, many<br>
users on our partner sites can't use this tool.<br>
<br>
Any opinions are appreciated.<br>
<br>
- Peter<br>
<br>
----- Forwarded message from Rotem Hermon <<a href="mailto:rotem@gigya-inc.com">rotem@gigya-inc.com</a>> -----<br>
<br>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:53:30 +0300<br>
From: Rotem Hermon <<a href="mailto:rotem@gigya-inc.com">rotem@gigya-inc.com</a>><br>
To: Peter Lowe <<a href="mailto:pgl@yoyo.org">pgl@yoyo.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Request to be removed from your domain list<br>
<br>
Wow, that's just not true. I see it's from the wikipedia page. I have no<br>
idea who made this change (I see it was done in April), but it's not what<br>
we do and it's not the correct description of our company.<br>
You can see a more accurate explanation on our Crunchbase page -<br>
<a href="https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/gigya#/entity" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.crunchbase.com/<wbr>organization/gigya#/entity</a><br>
We don't do cross-site anything (except aggregated and anonymized security<br>
related analysis for protection of end users against identity theft).<br>
"Turning unknown visitors into known" means we provide end users with<br>
authentication methods (social and regular registration). We're not<br>
handling anonymous users and are not tracking them.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Peter Lowe <<a href="mailto:pgl@yoyo.org">pgl@yoyo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Rotem,<br>
><br>
> That's not quite what your service is described as:<br>
><br>
> Gigya Inc. provides de-anonymising, 'identity' aggregating services<br>
> to corporate customers, through cross-site tracking, to "turn anonymous<br>
> visitors into known customers with social and traditional registration<br>
> tools that let you easily authenticate users and collect rich<br>
> first-party data".<br>
><br>
> How do you identify users if you don't track them?<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 08:30:59PM +0300, Rotem Hermon wrote:<br>
> > Hi Peter,<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you for getting back to me.<br>
> ><br>
> > No, Gigya is not a tracking company. We're a CIAM (customer identity and<br>
> > access management) company. Basically we're managing the user database,<br>
> > login and registration systems for sites. We do not track users or share<br>
> > user information between sites. Blocking us is the same as blocking the<br>
> > login and registration screens and the user database for a site that uses<br>
> > us...<br>
> ><br>
> > We actually help our customers be privacy compliant in regards to end<br>
> user<br>
> > data (including regulations like the upcoming GDPR).<br>
> > You can see more about it here - <a href="https://www.gigya.com/trust/privacy/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gigya.com/trust/<wbr>privacy/</a> ,<br>
> and<br>
> > our own privacy policy - <a href="https://www.gigya.com/privacy-policy/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gigya.com/privacy-<wbr>policy/</a> .<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Rotem.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Peter Lowe <<a href="mailto:pgl@yoyo.org">pgl@yoyo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Hi Rotem,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://gigya.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gigya.com</a> was added on Thursday:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/details.php?hostname=gigya.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/<wbr>details.php?hostname=gigya.com</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Gigya basically are a tracking company, right?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > - Peter<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 06:20:39PM +0300, Rotem Hermon wrote:<br>
> > > > Hi Peter,<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I'm using uBlock Origin that uses your ad server domain list, and it<br>
> > > seems<br>
> > > > that since yesterday (give or take) you inserted our domain, gigya<br>
> dot<br>
> > > com,<br>
> > > > into your list.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > We at Gigya are a SaaS company providing customer identity and access<br>
> > > > management services to enterprises. Meaning that our system is being<br>
> used<br>
> > > > to power login and registration for major internet sites. We're not<br>
> an ad<br>
> > > > network nor affiliated to any such company. We're not involved in<br>
> any ad<br>
> > > > related activity. We provide user management services. Blocking our<br>
> > > domain<br>
> > > > may break the ability to register and login to some of our customer<br>
> > > sites.<br>
> > > > It also just blocks access to our developer portal which is used by<br>
> > > > developers who are implementing with our system.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > You are welcomed to look at our website and check out some of our<br>
> > > customers<br>
> > > > to see how we're incorporated on their site. I hope you will remove<br>
> us<br>
> > > from<br>
> > > > the list as it will just break the user experience on some top<br>
> internet<br>
> > > > sites for anyone using the list.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Thanks,<br>
> > > > --<br>
> > > > Rotem Hermon<br>
> > > > VP Architecture, Gigya Inc.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > --<br>
> > > This is not the .signature you are looking for. Move along.<br>
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> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Rotem Hermon<br>
> > VP Architecture, Gigya Inc.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> This is not the .signature you are looking for. Move along.<br>
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><br>
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<br>
--<br>
Rotem Hermon<br>
VP Architecture, Gigya Inc.<br>
<br>
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