[Blocking] [rotem at gigya-inc.com: Re: Request to be removed from your domain list]

Mon Aug 14 19:48:18 BST 2017

I don't think they are serving ads.

2017-08-13 21:13 GMT+02:00 Peter Lowe <pgl at yoyo.org>:

> OK, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and delist them.
>
> Incidentally, I received this in 2008:
>
>   Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:17:12 -0700
>   From: Patrick Salyer <patrick at gigya-inc.com>
>   To: pgl at yoyo.org
>   Subject: Gigya
>
>   Hi Peter,
>
>   My name is Patrick and I am with Gigya.  I noticed that Gigya is being
>   listed as an ad server.  I think this was done by mistake.  In fact,
>   Gigya is a flash tool that is used by web publishers to enable them to
>   easily share content.  Because we are listed on an ad server, many
>   users on our partner sites can't use this tool.
>
> Any opinions are appreciated.
>
>  - Peter
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Rotem Hermon <rotem at gigya-inc.com> -----
>
> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:53:30 +0300
> From: Rotem Hermon <rotem at gigya-inc.com>
> To: Peter Lowe <pgl at yoyo.org>
> Subject: Re: Request to be removed from your domain list
>
> Wow, that's just not true. I see it's from the wikipedia page. I have no
> idea who made this change (I see it was done in April), but it's not what
> we do and it's not the correct description of our company.
> You can see a more accurate explanation on our Crunchbase page -
> https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/gigya#/entity
> We don't do cross-site anything (except aggregated and anonymized security
> related analysis for protection of end users against identity theft).
> "Turning unknown visitors into known" means we provide end users with
> authentication methods (social and regular registration). We're not
> handling anonymous users and are not tracking them.
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Peter Lowe <pgl at yoyo.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rotem,
> >
> > That's not quite what your service is described as:
> >
> >   Gigya Inc. provides de-anonymising, 'identity' aggregating services
> >   to corporate customers, through cross-site tracking, to "turn anonymous
> >   visitors into known customers with social and traditional registration
> >   tools that let you easily authenticate users and collect rich
> >   first-party data".
> >
> > How do you identify users if you don't track them?
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 08:30:59PM +0300, Rotem Hermon wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > Thank you for getting back to me.
> > >
> > > No, Gigya is not a tracking company. We're a CIAM (customer identity
> and
> > > access management) company. Basically we're managing the user database,
> > > login and registration systems for sites. We do not track users or
> share
> > > user information between sites. Blocking us is the same as blocking the
> > > login and registration screens and the user database for a site that
> uses
> > > us...
> > >
> > > We actually help our customers be privacy compliant in regards to end
> > user
> > > data (including regulations like the upcoming GDPR).
> > > You can see more about it here - https://www.gigya.com/trust/privacy/
> ,
> > and
> > > our own privacy policy - https://www.gigya.com/privacy-policy/ .
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rotem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Peter Lowe <pgl at yoyo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Rotem,
> > > >
> > > > gigya.com was added on Thursday:
> > > >
> > > >   http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/details.php?hostname=gigya.com
> > > >
> > > > Gigya basically are a tracking company, right?
> > > >
> > > >  - Peter
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 06:20:39PM +0300, Rotem Hermon wrote:
> > > > > Hi Peter,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using uBlock Origin that uses your ad server domain list, and
> it
> > > > seems
> > > > > that since yesterday (give or take) you inserted our domain, gigya
> > dot
> > > > com,
> > > > > into your list.
> > > > >
> > > > > We at Gigya are a SaaS company providing customer identity and
> access
> > > > > management services to enterprises. Meaning that our system is
> being
> > used
> > > > > to power login and registration for major internet sites. We're not
> > an ad
> > > > > network nor affiliated to any such company. We're not involved in
> > any ad
> > > > > related activity. We provide user management services. Blocking our
> > > > domain
> > > > > may break the ability to register and login to some of our customer
> > > > sites.
> > > > > It also just blocks access to our developer portal which is used by
> > > > > developers who are implementing with our system.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are welcomed to look at our website and check out some of our
> > > > customers
> > > > > to see how we're incorporated on their site. I hope you will remove
> > us
> > > > from
> > > > > the list as it will just break the user experience on some top
> > internet
> > > > > sites for anyone using the list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rotem Hermon
> > > > > VP Architecture, Gigya Inc.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > This is not the .signature you are looking for. Move along.
> > > > http://pgl.yoyo.org/ | pgl at yoyo.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rotem Hermon
> > > VP Architecture, Gigya Inc.
> >
> > --
> > This is not the .signature you are looking for. Move along.
> > http://pgl.yoyo.org/ | pgl at yoyo.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rotem Hermon
> VP Architecture, Gigya Inc.
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
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